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TG Apr 10 22
Lane: Hello, Joyce. How are you?
Joyce: I'm very happy. It's all good. Things
Lane: are great. Welcome everyone to Talking Galactic with myself and my mom. We're here to spread hopefully a little joy and good humor as we pour through the issues of the day from a spiritual and galactic perspective.
Joyce, what do you think about that?
Joyce: I think I'm excited about my new book because you're talking about things that are joyful. So my new book is THE JOY OF MIRACLES. And right now I think we need a miracle on the planet. So it's a time of miracle and
Lane: joy. Do you think we're going to get one or two or three?
Joyce: Definitely. Definitely.
Lane: But it depends on, Sorry. It depends
Joyce: on the way people feel and think and act and treat each other. Where are we globally? Where are we as humanity? How are we treating each other? Are we overreacting or reacting at all? No reaction. Disconnection what's going on.
Lane: You're saying, because I'm seeing a whole lot of disconnection,
Joyce: I'm seeing disconnection, but I'm also seeing that people have an awareness that they have to be nice to each other.
Lane: So we're two years and several months into the scamdemic and we still have a situation on the planet where --how would you sum up the situation you say it in your words?
Joyce: No, I think that they have one last surge. The pandemic in New York city, especially. And that's again, continuing a man-made project. A few weeks ago we had Easter Sunday. It was a very special time for the entire planet
Lane: You're going to have to clarify that because a lot of people, while still believing in Jesus or Yeshua ben Joseph, as we know him, or "brother," as he likes to be called, a lot of people have signed off from religion. They know that it's been fabricated. They know the dates. I'm talking about the Christian religion. At least they know the dates given are wrong. The control system relies heavily on religion to keep people in line and so forth. So I know the answer to this already because I know you, so why are you saying it was a holy season?
Joyce: It doesn't necessarily come from the church. It comes from mankind's belief system and what they feel in their hearts and souls and most of mankind, no matter what the religion is. Believe that this is a special time it's spring time. It's time of new beginnings.
This is when the animals, even the animals know, and they're giving birth now, the birds are coming out butterflies are coming out of cocoons. It's a new time. It's
So wonderful time. It's a little dismaying but a little buds coming out only to have huge cold snaps.
Joyce: A lot of it is manmade with use of satellites, they're testing, they're figuring out what they can do with weather.
And of course, nobody talks about it, but a lot of it is created by humans. So it's a testing process as part of the growth process. They're trying to learn how and what to destroy, what to keep not destroyed a lot of interference with global activity and Galactic Federation, which is probably overseeing the whole.
Is questioning what mankind is really doing. That's why the weather is so crazy.
Lane: And you have to clarify on Galactic Federation because a lot of that is phony. That what I'll caution the audience. For those who aren't aware that a lot of quote, unquote, galactic federations have appeared on the internet over the years and they're not necessarily legitimate.
So which Galactic Federation are you referring to?
Joyce: Let me ask you, what do you think is legitimate?
Lane: I don't think there is a Galactic Federation. If you want to know the truth, I think that these interdimensional species, if you will, each have their own agendas or minds of their own, perhaps there are groups that gather together to decide some things, but is there really a guiding force that's overseeing, or are we being saved or are we going to be lost kind of situation? I don't believe that exists.
Joyce: Do you feel it's any kind of overseeing if you will, or guidance whatsoever or strictly an individual's interaction with themselves?
Lane: That's a really good question because I came to an epiphany earlier this week, or last week that we are, okay, this is going to sound trite. Like everyone's going to say, oh yeah, we already know that, but it goes deeper than what it's going to sound like. So basically we're in a matrix of our own making in that feeding the matrix in whatever form it is, even if it's how to get out of it is feeding it.
So for instance, all these, excuse me for diverting here a minute. We'll go back to the testing process and the growth process. That's really important. And they want to know how it is that we are working to get ourselves out of it. But let's go back to that. So all these truth tellers, alleged truth tellers over the years, right?
Alex Jones, David Ike, et cetera, et cetera. We've come to know that they were part of the matrix. And yet they've told so much truth. It's confusing in a way to understand why they're here in the first place. If indeed, they're really part of the whole overarching control system. Why are they here?
So once you realize that it is our perpetuation of the situation, that's making the matrix stay in place, then you realize that these guys, while seemingly on the opposite side, on the side of truth are really just perpetuating the whole mythology. So the myth is that we are in this situation that we have to get out of.
The truth is the true reality is we're not in that if we don't believe ourselves to be in that now that's very easy for me to say on my pulpit, everyone's dealing with garbage -- kids being vaccinated, people dropping dead in the street in poverty hardship, possible loss of homes, debt, illnesses of all kind, what else? Starvation is looming because of the food supply shutoffs .
People are even facing arrest for speaking out for honking the horns during a freedom protest for sending money to a trucker in need of food. They are being arrested now. So the question is how do we leap from one reality, which is very real and affects us and is very hurtful, and head to the new one, the real one, the Eden, the utopia, the Lemurian version.
How do we do that? And I believe, and this was where the epiphany came in. That number one, there has to be 100% belief in what is happening. Can't be 98. It can't be well, you have to believe wholeheartedly. You are not part of that system. You're part of the new system, the real system. It's not a new one, it's an old one, but it's new to us.
And number two is that belief has to become knowledge so there's no longer a shadow of a doubt. And again, it sounds a little Hocus Pocus or woo woo, but it goes deeper than that. I even issued a statement on it . Some people got it, others didn't respond.
So it's interesting to see where it resonated.
Joyce: What did you say essentially?
Lane: this, what I'm telling you right now. I'm going to give you an example . You know, about Running Bear. He's one of my native American guides. He's been with me since I was a child.
I can talk to him. He helps in any manner of ways. You're one of the ones who told me about him. One of the things he's very good at is parking spots in New York City, or wherever, but especially in New York city, when I lived there, it was very difficult.
You always had to do alternate side of the street, parking, that was every other day you had to move your car to the other side of the street.
If you aren't there at the right time, then you wouldn't get a spot. You'd have to circle the block for ages. Running Bear was extremely helpful in always finding a spot right away. And it wasn't just that. It would be raining and I'd be pregnant and he'd find me a spot it right at the front of something where it's impossible to get a spot.
Anyway, here's the story is that when I had somebody in the car who didn't understand this or believe in it, it would make me question it and then I'd never get a spot. But if I was alone in the car, of course. As an example of this whole situation that we're in how it's so easy to trip yourself up with even the slightest bit of doubt.
Joyce: Oh, I see. You're saying, is there a difference between faith and belief?
Lane: Faith is you have faith in a higher power that things are going to be all right.
Whereas when I believed wholeheartedly in it, it would always happen. And that's how I came to realize it comes down to 100% belief, 100%, not 98, not 99.9.
Knowledge is a hundred percent knowing of something. Belief is getting to knowledge.
This whole thing that we're in it's theater between two sides fighting one another in front of our eyes, pretending that they're fighting for us. Don't buy into it is what I'm saying.
Joyce: So the purpose of their presenting theater to mankind is strictly a distraction. Is that correct?
Lane: It's to keep us in a perpetual loop where we believe that this reality that they have created for us is the real reality, when it is not, it is the fake one. It's an illusion.
That's why so many people have said we live in a hologram. It's not reality. The real reality is the one we belong in. The one we should have been in, the Eden, Lemuria. The one that is where we can love and we do love. And I think the way to get there is through loving one another unconditionally, where we don't have people telling us what to do, what we can can't put in our bodies. It's where we're hugely sovereign. You determine your own future and that of your children.
Joyce: How do you think we can come to that point? And so many people are resisting.
Lane: I can speak for the masses. I can only speak for each individual who's aware of this and who wants to move forward. And I believe it comes through 100% belief and through love.
Joyce: When most of the planet is not in that place. And we're in a place of antagonism, fear, concern, worry, stress, and strife. I'm asking you what the mechanism is. How did we get from where mankind is now, which is a place of strife and worry to the love that you're talking about.
Lane: I'm not sure what you mean by mechanism, but I will tell you this it's an individual choice. Is this the reality you want to exist in? Or do you want to move into what your true destiny and calling is? Isn't this why the spirit teachers and helpers are unable to help us? Because we haven't created the real reality yet.
Joyce: When you say the real reality, that's a place of bliss and love, is that correct?
Lane: Sure. But bliss would be nice. Yes. I'll go with bliss.
Joyce: Do you think that has to be a huge slamdown of mankind or great awakening, which supposedly is occurring, but it's really
Lane: see, that's the issue that I had been grappling with and not just me.
Why has mankind refused to awaken? This was supposed to be the great awakening, not hue(?), but . We talked about this in our previous show, The Arcturians. We talked about this a lot. Why did COVID exist? Why was this pandemic here? Because it was going to catapult people into an awakened state and
Joyce: to a large extent it did, but obviously the job has not been done.
Lane: You have the vaccine or just returned to their stupor by choice,
Joyce: and you didn't even mention fluorides and water. I'm very disappointed.
Lane: That's an old situation I'm talking about. COVID and post COVID. Flouride in water helped set the stage. Of course, pineal shut down. Of course. Okay.
Joyce: So before we started, you said you really tired of speaking about three days of darkness but there has to be some kind of a big cosmic slap of some kind. Because there's so much resistance and you're saying we can do this through love and people are saying, yeah, sure.
Lane: No, I didn't say that. I said we can do it through belief. That was the epiphany I had, but okay.
Cosmic slap. I'm good with that. Whatever it's going to take.
Joyce: Okay. What kind of a cosmic slap you have in mind?
Lane: No you have one. So the three days of darkness. So now. Now it's back again.
Joyce: I don't know if it's back coming or what , but mankind--see the virus should have done it. Along with fluoride in water and all of that, it's like all should have said, what's going on?
And people needed to have an awakening. To a large extent we have, and many people have come to that place of belief in something better, but you can see that most people are falling back into the pattern. Now that things are opening up again and shutting down again, there's real confusion on the planet.
So your belief system is really being challenged.
Lane: the fact that things are somewhat turning to normal, it's an illusion. It's not, it's getting worse.
Joyce: Okay. I agree. I agree it's getting worse. So do you have a solution.
Lane: The knowledge that this is a reality that they have fabricated for us and that we need to step out of it and believe in the way things really are. We're in a matrix. Why do they use these words matrix? Forget what we've learned over the past few years or the movie.
What is the word matrix suggest to you?
Joyce: Which most people do not believe in by the way
Lane: It's a physical grid that surrounds the planet, right? It's a creation. Do you remember the movie with Jim Carrey? Where he's in the matrix and he realizes the Truman story, right?
The Truman Show. Thank you. That's what we're in. We're in The Truman Show.
Joyce: Yeah, but you see when, you have people. Going into outer space. They say there is no grid and there is no matrix because obviously leaving and, taking civilians out this week.
Lane: First of all, Kubrick admitted that the moon landing was completely fabricated.
Okay, all this outer space is B S it's more theater. We've been on Mars for decades. If not generations, they've been mining Mars. People like Sergeant Randy Kramer have come back and given full blown exposés on what's going on there. What some fake astronaut says about what he has or hasn't seen is irrelevant. That's part of the matrix that they have created this entire illusion
Joyce: what did Kubrick actually say?
Lane: They either paid him or threatened him, maybe a little of both and it was a complete creation. He directed it.
Joyce: As I said this week, I believe that taking civilians into outer space, along with astronauts, I think they're taking three civilians. Paid millions of dollars. They're all millionaires, but they're ordinary citizens, one Russian, one American, and one something else. That's also part of the matrix.
Lane: I would think that there will be an illusion perpetrated on them, or maybe not. If they're billionaires, maybe they're part of the whole thing. But I can guarantee you, they won't be able to tell the people on earth what happened.
Not for real, we'll get a story.
Joyce: Can you tell us how people can actually break out of the matrix other than a belief in the truth and how do they get to that truth factor?
Lane: This is what we're trying to plow through. It's hard enough to understand that there's two realities. That's step one, step two is to firmly believe that this reality doesn't apply to you in any way. Karma is part of it. It's fake, it's fabricated. And I still buy into karma.
So I've had one foot here and one foot there. I'm not in a good example of how to get out of this, but I have known that many things that we accept are completely wrong. And I guess the key is to stop, accepting them to question absolutely everything or better yet say to everything: This is not my reality. I've been saying that for years. Feeling impoverished, feeling a sense of jealousy or guilt-- all of these things. I've said it's not my reality and I push it right out. It's not part of my field, my energetic field.
So I would assume that's step one. I'm looking for answers too, how do we get out of this?
Joyce: I know you're not a big fan of meditation.
Lane: I can't sit and chant and hum, and breathe and believe me, I've tried, but it's about connecting right to the heart space and right to Source.
Joyce: So you're going directly. You're not taking the subway. You're going directly right.
Lane: Okay. I go right there. And a lot of it comes through spontaneously.
Joyce: I want to ask you what you think about solar flares. So the flash, if you think that's a factor of what's going on on the earth, confusion and hostility.
My feeling is it's solar flares or solar flashes. I'm not sure because my teachers have told me about both will help to break through the matrix
Lane: is that your three days of darkness then?
Joyce: I don't know about the three days of darkness because if the three days of darkness were to occur, it would be three days and you might actually sleep through it or be taken out of your body it's anyone's guess. But there would be a few days after.
And the idea is keep your vibration so high with or without meditation. However you choose to do it so that you go through it smoothly and easily and you don't go crazy. I know planes are not going to drop out of the sky. There may be a change of electrical frequency. As you get rid of a lot of the energy.
It's an energy shift, more than anything where we're so dependent upon energy now on the planet, it may come to the point where we're dealing mostly with solar energy or universal energy, and that has to be a shutdown of the planet. So there will be protection. The ascended masters are good to go. Will it be this year?
I don't know. No one knows. And the reason no one knows is that mankind continuously changes its frequency, which is why predictions are so difficult at this time. But the solar flares are definitely changing the energy on the. Will there be three days of darkness. Oh, we're so tired of that. We don't know. We don't care.
But what does count is knowing that what we're doing now is not for the most part, best for the planet. We have to stop eating animals. We have to stop killing each other. That kind of thing. What's going on in Ukraine should have ended actually but there were so many people making money and they're so happy. So that will probably continue, but I'm not saying there's not going to be World War III, but it will be different than what we've known in the past. And it will not be anything you should worry about. Now. One of the things that, this, again, I really don't like talking about these three days of darkness, but one of the things that might occur.
Preventing that third world war, because people will be smacked around. And if you get on board or you don't, it's like that kind of thing.
Lane: You need to explain, get on board.
Joyce: Knowing that killING each other is wrong. Eating each other is wrong. Not having a plant-based diet is wrong.
Lane: Don't do you think these Russians who are perpetuating the war in the Ukraine are thinking they think they're doing the right thing because they've been lied to, not the Russians perpetuating the work, excuse me. It's the reverse . So the Ukraines, to explain have been under the thumb of the cabal.
That is a huge trafficking hotspot. As the Bidens have been there in force, they took over the energy companies-- it's literally a cabal strong hold. In fact it used to be Khazaria, which is where the Khazarian Jews come from. Now, when we say Jews, we don't mean real Jews.
We mean the Khazarian, they are fake Jews and they masquerade under their Jewishness, which doesn't actually exist. They are dark, they are evil. Many of the people in our governments are part of it. So Putin in this situation is being a good guy in taking it down. But what's really happening is you've seen two parties fighting each other who are still part of the matrix.
So the soldiers over there most likely think they're fighting the good fight. They're lied to too. It is down to us not killing each other. More importantly, it's take the wool from your eyes and see what's really going on, that you're being used as a pawn in somebody else's game and they're playing with your life.
They don't care about your lives. They care about their lives and you are nothing to them. You're garbage and you're out there fighting and killing and doing dirty work and you don't even realize it.
And that goes for the people in governments, too. It goes for a lot of people who are working for the cabal yet thinking they're doing the right thing. So I don't think it's so much as stop eating meat and stop killing each other. It's open your eyes and see what's really going on and take the right road.
Take the right path, listen to your own inner guidance system, which is probably telling you all along, this is wrong. Like the Royal mounted police in Canada fighting the freedom fighters. There's got to be some part of you that says this is wrong. So that's what you should be listening to.
Sorry, that's my take on it. I agree with you. It's too simple to say, stop killing each other. It's not, it stopped listening to the dark, listen to the light, listen to that light inside of you. That's saying something's not adding up here. And that goes to everyone. Everyone was sitting in front of their TV thinking, Oh, Covid's passing. Everything's going to be fine. Yeah. I know there's going to be food shortages. And I know, oh yeah, lot of people dying from the vaccination, but they're protected. No, they are not. Vaccines do not protect you from anything. They put stuff inside of you that makes you controlled.
That's why we're seeing such a rise of zombism. So anyway enough with my lecture, I'm sorry about that. I just,
Joyce: I love to listen to you.
Lane: I just want to get this back on track because if people have to awaken in order to eradicate the darkness then they need a kick in the butt, because like you said, a lot of people stopped caring.
They started to awaken and then there were enough lies or maybe they were vaccinated and put into a state of Zombification and they no longer care. They're going to need a lot of shaking.
Joyce: That's good. A lot of shaking. That's what we're talking about. We're talking about a lot of shaking of the earth, wake up people.
And do you think a lot of this comes down to the creation of a new currency or a new type of cryptocurrency or getting rid of the banking system?
Lane: What do you mean comes down to?
Joyce: A lot of the madness that's going on in the planet?
Now the vaccines, of course, people are making billions of dollars. People are dying, not dying. Nobody knows the truth. Do you think the ultimate goal is cryptocurrency? Or that there's a change in the economy?
Lane: Definitely. It's an outcropping. It's one more means of control.
So cryptocurrency, which, I did a deep study of, I had hoped like everyone else, it was a form of freedom and it is to a certain extent, but come on, has anything ever been created where they don't have full control, they have back doors. They're manipulating the markets. That's the same as the gold and silver, the same as the stocks, it's all manipulated.
So yes, maybe you can play within their system a little bit and find a little bit of freedom and perhaps some financial windfall through cryptos, sure. But ultimately the bad guys can still take all that away from you. They will find a way and they will get it. There's often ships of wealth 2008 Lehman Btothers financial, real estate crash was a shift of wealth.
COVID was it shift of wealth from the mom and pop industry, which was pretty much eradicated into the hands of the globalists. Once again, same with real estate. We're supposed to be due for a big foreclosure market next year crash where people will unfortunately lose their homes. What's that?
That's another transfer of wealth. So going to digital, it's a further means for them to control us. Literally, if we go to digital out. The game is over it's over because they will be able at a moment's notice to shut off our ability to buy food, to pay for electric. If you're an iconoclast, if you speak out, if you look what's happening in Canada, anyone who says that can't happen is absolutely deluded.
It's happening in Canada. It's happening in Australia, certainly happened in China, the social credit system. That's what that's all about. New Zealand it's happened in New Zealand. So the point is this. If they go to a full-out digital currency and we cannot use cash or gold or silver to trade or cryptos, we're done.
Joyce: Don't you think that's the ultimate goal?
And that's why there's such a fight now between the light and the dark, because they're pushing for a digital currency/
Lane: The ultimate goal is complete control and that's one more facet. One more nail in the coffin of control.
Joyce: That's why there's such a big battle game.
Lane: The end game is to completely eradicate the useless eaters and leave a portion, the zombified portion slave class to serve them.
Joyce: Okay. But if you stop right there, and you say, okay, that's one side of the battle. And that's what we would consider the dark side. Can we agree on that? Okay. Then the forces of light, call them whatever you want. The God Forces, whatever comes in and says, no, that's not going to happen. And as we speak, there's an unseen, invisible battle going on a galactic level to break through that matrix that we were discussing before, so that this digital currency does not happen.
I think that's the bottom line. It's because once a digital currency takes over, as you just said, the game is over.
The forces of light said, look, this is not going to happen because we love the earth. So if push comes to shove, I hate using an old cliche, but it really is true.
If we come to that point, they'll say, all right, we're shutting you down for a few days because we've really had it. We're fed up with all of you. And this came directly from Tesla by the way. And he said, we're going to cut it out. We're not going that way. And that's really good. It's so far away from what we started discussing, but it really is the truth.
And the solar flares have the purpose of helping us to understand more about the battle. And we're still refusing to say it. So there comes a point in the universe where help me out here. I don't know what to call them because you said we don't want to use the Galactic Federation. We don't care what you call it.
The Creative Force, we'll call it. That says,
Lane: okay that's the term for it. And that's an important term. Okay. Cause the other one is one that was thrust upon us. And let's get rid of that, it was a trap. It was a trap. Okay.
Joyce: We'll call it the Creative Force because as you mentioned, before again, so brilliantly if we have this planetary shutdown where everybody goes crazy and all of that, until they regain their composure or die or whatever .When all of this is over three, six days, seven days, no one knows when or how long it will take.
At that point, we go back to the Lemurian energy, which is where we're
Lane: supposed to be, but we can't go there if we don't believe it, if we're still hanging on to this 3d, we'll call it 3d for lack of a
Joyce: better term. That's what they're trying to eliminate. That's what they're trying to get
Lane: rid of. They're not going to be able to get rid of it.
If people are still hanging onto it, those
Joyce: people hang onto it until you have this galactic shut down
Lane: and then they're going to let go. It's going to be universal. Yes.
Joyce: Yes, it has to be, it has to be because if they don't do it smoothly and nicely. Then you have the planetary shutdown. That's why it's in abeyance,and no one knows for sure, because if you look around you you speak to people, you'll see how. People are so uncertain and they're confused further by the vaccines, as you said before, and there's just so much confusion
Lane:. So Joyce, tell us, please, who are you speaking with? Who is giving us information? So Nicola Tesla is here.
See here right now.
Joyce: There's a whole gang of them here.
Lane: Welcome. Welcome.
Joyce: Welcome. We don't want to mention names because they said let's not get caught up in personalities. Cause those personalities were dropped a long time ago. Let's just speak about galactic energy. They're trying to save the planet, which is your primary job, Elaine.
Lane: Thank you very much for being here and please impart whatever you can, any help you can.
Joyce: They want to get the word out that people have to wake up. Now. The vaccines are a huge factor. And confusion because of the pineal shutdown, which is so important as we go through this change phase.
Even though Tesla and Faraday and people like that, and Edison, the whole gang of them were so caught up except the Tesla caught up in the financial
Joyce: But there was an actual love of science, but it caught us up in a phase of science that worked ultimately against us trying to reverse it now.
And if this is shut down of the planet, we'll call it that we're not going to call it three days because everyone hates that. If there's a planetary shutdown, the energy grid will be changed. It will not be
Joyce: set up. It will be different and it'll be better and it'll be free. It's raising of awareness.
And not so much of what we're dependent upon now. We don't know any better because we haven't been clearly shown the way and we've also blinded and the matrix has shut us off from the truth. So I'm sorry. I'll let you speak.
Lane: No. I'm agreeing with you. That's all.
Joyce: ask a question.
Lane: So the thing --the plan is brilliant. But the thing that I don't like about the plan is that, once again, allows people to take a back seat and say, the saviors are coming. We're going to have a planetary shut down and everyone will awaken. This situation, and please correct me if I'm wrong.
All those who are here, it does not mean you can stop the work. And I would love for them to explain what the work is that we should be doing
Joyce: Well after this is period of rest, we'll call it rest. If this occurs and the people leave who have to leave, and there's a great reset and not only in humanity's mindset and soulset, I've never heard that word before their soulset, their spirit, but there will not be the, they're using the word conflaguration.
There will not be the conflict that we're having now, the conflict will be over. There will be no reason for conflict and in answer to your question they'll go on with whatever work they choose ,whatever makes them happy if they enjoyed selling or growing up. \
Lane: Part of the problem right now is people taking a back seat with regard to responsibility and their responsibility could be as simple as waking up and admitting the things are not all right with the planet and that you really should not be listening to these liars who are perpetuating
Joyce: But the problem is the vaccines are making it worse and almost everyone has been vaccinated. Now, they're pushing for more vaccines, especially in New York city.
Lane: Yes, almost everyone. Do you have any idea how many people have been vaccinated?
Joyce: I know 800,000 they're admitting to, dying already. I don't know if they'd been vaccinated. I don't know what the numbers are because we don't want to get caught up in numbers cause they're probably going to be wrong, but get the concept, right? The concept is one of being smart. And by being smart saying, no, I have natural immunity and I've got to keep myself strong and healthy with what my body needs, whether it's exercise or meditation, plants, if you have to eat animals, you know that's possible, they'll understand their destiny.
It's okay. That may continue for awhile. There's a great movie Defending Your Life, where they're in heaven and they're actually eating meat, but the movie is brilliant because they're having a mostly spaghetti and meat. It's what they needed at that time. But that will change. Also, as we, as the frequency continues, this will go on till 2031, approximately give or take a couple of years.
Lane: Please explain. What will go on?
Joyce: The change over to a higher frequency on the earth.
They don't want to destroy the earth again, or they, the powers that be the creative force wants us to grow and to be aware of what we're capable of being. They want us to know what we're capable of being, and to know who we are. And right now we don't know who we are. We think that we're nine to fivers caught in a matrix.
And we're stuck there and that's not the truth at all.
Lane: No, not at all. So what did they think of my explanation before of the two realities?
Joyce: Go over it again.
Lane: There is a matrix kept in place by us fighting it. The sheer act of us fighting the matrix to get out of it is perpetuating it.
The true way out is the knowledge that is a fake reality. And the real reality is the one we'll call it the Lemurian reality or the Eden, the utopic version of things, and that by 100% belief and knowledge that the real one exists and their fake reality has no hold over. You can transition from one to the other,
Joyce: Well that would be ideal.
Lane: What do they think though?
Joyce: You know people as well as I do. And do you think it's possible?Knowing the people on the earth at this time.
Lane: Time is the clincher, isn't it? Because it will take time, but you just said 2033 that this approximately. Okay. So that's nine years. So nine years all it takes is for people to start doing.
Joyce: It might take nine years. Might take longer than that. I don't know time like you, time is no real reality for me. It might take a while.
I don't think it's this year. I think approximately the plan was through the planet to be shut down, but that's changing also.
That's not set in stone. Nothing is set in stone. All the Bible predictions. Prophets, everybody, Edgar Cayce, everybody nobody's right. Nobody's wrong because it's changing from second to second.
Lane: Common sense.
Joyce: So how's it possible to answer your question when there's such a flux in understanding
Lane: what is going to happen with the, what did you call it? The electronic upset from the sun. Wouldn't that be shaking people from one, from one reality to the next? Doesn't everything come back down to belief and knowledge?
Joyce: In answer to your question, they're talking about a great shaking of the planet, which will probably be done with earthquakes.
At that point, people become more open. So it has to do with their openness.
Lane: With the change in the Earth's vibration, aren't we essentially shifting from one reality to the next
Joyce: that's ideal because the fourth is what they're talking about.
Lane: You're talking about the fourth dimension?
Joyce: Yes, that's a transitional dimension. And then the fifth dimension is scheduled to start approximately 2031. And the in-between time is a time of shaking.
Lane: Are we in the fourth dimension now.
Joyce: We're entering into it. The shaking is starting already, but it hasn't really begun because it's still very subtle.
They say well it's not settled because of what's happening in the Ukraine. But for most of the planet, it's subtle and people are dying here. They're dying there it's wake up time.
Lane: I think teenagers dropping dead on the sports field is not subtle.
Joyce: It's wake up time. And even though teenagers are dying on the football field, it's still a time of awareness because it's being attributed to other things like maybe they had an undiscovered heart problem or they're not, they're still not acknowledging. It's the lack of acknowledgement.
So then what is the question?
Lane: The question is, what does the Lightworker do and what does the average human being do? I don't want to say, average, but the unawake human being has to pull the wool from their eyes, but what can the rest of us do?
Joyce: Okay. Will you say the rest of us, you combining it with people who are okay, not, not us
Lane: people who are aware of what's going on and want to help.
Joyce: Number one, don't depend on television news.
Lane: We're talking about people who are awake and want to help--the one's who are awake. Okay. We want the planet to transition out of this state that we're in. So what's
Joyce: the task is to do what you're doing.
Which is to either do it by podcast or speaking to people directly, usually doesn't work because they are usually offended or hostile. Yeah. So that's not going to work, but what you can do is do it in a very not direct way. I'm sure there's a better word for it, but do it in an indirect way, such as either doing it on the web or doing it in a general way where people say, they're not speaking to me, but maybe there's some truth in this.
They're not going to take offense as much as you saying. It's really not a great idea.
Lane: Okay. So speak out.
Joyce: In a very general way. So the message is out there and you're delivering light and you're delivering wisdom, but it's not in a direct way. It's not offensive. It's there. So a podcast is a beautiful thing.
Podcasts are only a couple of years old really in general acceptance. Blogs, are great. Any time it's general, where people can tune it out or tune it in and hear the truth such as you what you're delivering.
Lane: We have a lineup of wonderful shows in our first season here at LifeSource.
So yeah, we're trying to address people at their various levels and also what do people need? What do we all need to boost our spirits? Our knowledge levels, because all the information out there is false. That's the other thing is that there's literally nothing out there of any value.
Joyce: Okay. It's not necessarily false because it's a universal obligation. And what I just said is very important. There is a universal obligation. For even the dark workers to deliver an element of truth, such as the Simpsons, there is an agreement or some sort of law. I don't know what this is, where an element of truth has to be delivered.
And this is true where they have to deliver something of knowledge and awareness.
Lane: We've been aware of that for quite some time, but it's usually cloaked. So where's that coming from? Some people call it the prime directive.
That is what it is and who is it coming from. And why did they bother obeying it when they're all so evil?
Joyce: Because the law of the earth, I can't do anymore with it then that other than to say there's a universal law that says there has to be truth given before the darkness can be manifested. I have no idea any more than that.
I just know that it's true. And it's deliberate in a number of ways it's delivered it. Even with people like Ike and people like that, there is still,
Lane: no, he delivers a lot of truth. That's a lot of truth, it's also mixed in with darkness though.
Joyce: What is the word that's really required?
It's discernment. It's a test of your discernment because when you watch the Simpsons there's truth, but it's also mixed in with garbage. So again, it's necessary.
Lane: Whoever made this universal law forgot the swimming pool, didn't they.
Joyce: Forgot the, what?
Lane: the swimming pool.
Joyce: Okay. I don't know what that means.
Lane: Yes you do. When you manifested the apartment in Battery Park City,
You created a list of what you needed and it was made for you. Except that you forgot to say a swimming pool for dad.
Joyce: Oh, that's right. That's right. Okay.
Lane: But what that came to mean was a euphemism for when you manifest something, don't forget something really important as a part of it.
And one of the things you forgot to say about Battery Park City is please don't make us move in two weeks before the area turns into a tragic nightmare. So that's what we did, right? 9/11, the buildings came down two weeks later in your backyard, so to speak. What I'm saying is that when we manifest or we create something you, can't overlook important aspects to it. That's what we mean by don't forget the swimming pool. So when the prime creator created the prime directive saying truth must be given before evil can occur, He forgot, or didn't put some guidelines in there because most people, this truth, so to speak is so cloaked.
Most people can't pick up on it and most of us don't even find it till after the fact. And it's so subtle sometimes
Joyce: That's because the growth process on the earth is extremely important. And that's why we use the word discernment.
That's how we grow as human beings is this truth or is it fiction? What do we actually dealing with otherwise? How can we grow? We have to be able to use our.
Lane: Absolutely. But again, the information delivered is so ridiculously disguised and, obscured you can't even find it.
Joyce: Part of mastery, which is what we're aiming for is being able to find and use that discernment. You don't want to stay in kindergarten, forever. Which is where most people are
Lane: you may be talking about moving past discernment into high levels of intuition and psychic.
Joyce: It's all part of the process because after this is great shaking or awakening or whatever you want to call it, where we have the awakening of more people on the planet than we have right now, there will be great ESP. Right now you're just starting to see it, suddenly you're seeing everywhere .
Lane: That is great news. I felt my own skyrocketing in the past several years. so the process of learning and awakening, which is literally for us gone on our lifetimes, but the truly accelerated learning happened in the past 20 years, let's say, 15 years.
Part of that is your discernment moves into intuition really fast. From intuition, it goes into downright knowing.
Joyce: That was very well said.
Lane: You've always though been psychic, so you had a different path and of course yours is super developed .
You're talking to individuals right now who are not in the physical form. For the audience to know that is important. I can see you in my camera and I know you're talking with them. So how did you get to that level?
Joyce: I don't know.
Lane: That's perfectly fine.
Joyce: I didn't know you had your camera on because my eyes are closed. Can you tell?
Lane: We're on podcasts, so the audience won't be able to see you, but I can see you.
Joyce: You can see my eyes have been closed the whole time. So I, I don't know the question.
Lane: How did you move into this level of psychic development?
Or were you always this strong from birth?
The second part. And you know it because you grew up with me
Lane: I think you've gotten stronger.
Joyce: Ideally. We all do, and you certainly have as well. That also applies to your brother, he also has tremendously grown. I think most people who have not been vaccinated, I hate saying that, but it's really true are having huge leaps of growth. Now if you've been vaccinated it's anyone's guess .
I don't know. So I'm very happy that you've had your camera on because I didn't know that my eyes have been closed the whole time but I've been out of body for the last I don't know how long
Lane: I don't want to use words that are misleading, you don't channel, you're having conversations right now. And you're relaying information.
Joyce: I see myself only as a telephone. That's relay object where, if I'm very lucky I can bring in the information as it's supposed to be brought in. Now, some entities make it easier for me. Other ones are like a broad base where it's more difficult, it doesn't mean that the information is not correct.
It means that it's more difficult to pick up on it.
Lane: So the ones that make it easier for you, can you say who they are or what is it that they do to make it easier?
Joyce: Tesla jumps right in, and he says one word, you know what that word is? He says, Finally.
Lane: I'm so sorry. Tell him we've been going, well, I'll tell him, Nikola, we've been going through a little bit of a growing phase over at LifeSource as we had to leave the previous enterprise. I see you nodding. That was not a positive place to be.
And now we're in a very positive space with the people that have come aboard are the ones who are here. They are heart led, they are here to grow themselves and to do whatever they can do for the planet. Whereas where we were before unfortunately, a lot of those people were really looking for a payday.
Joyce: Yes. And he wants you to acknowledge his mate.
Joyce: Do you know who was mate was? Was can you see it in my hands?
Lane: Ether, a pigeon. I didn't see it. And I knew you were very close to the pigeons, but I didn't know. They were, you had one who was your mate?
Joyce: Yes. And this is the one he's holding it up.
Joyce: I think he called her Lily, but she was a very lovely pigeon and they were married and they were mates.
And because of that, and you can see, my hand is still up because of that, they thought he was insane, but it was simply because he was not understood. He was eons and eons ahead of time, he still is ahead of where we are. But if there is a time of awakening,. And he's really leading the force by the way. If there's a time of awakening.
Lane: So glad to hear that. That's amazing.
Joyce: You see how sweet she is. Can you see that?
He said, he's finally, and I don't know what his connection is with Faraday, but he said, they're working on huge projects and for the betterment of mankind, and he's so happy that you're finally coming to the point of being able, he said there should not be any fear on the planet or greed. And he said, hoping for love is like hoping for a lot.
But he said they're trying to bring in forces of love and joy and light to people like you.
Lane: Thank you. So part of this epiphany I had is a lot of us went to work on fear quite some time ago and eradicated it from our lives. But that isn't enough. Eradicating fear is only the first step in eliminating the bondage.
The next step that I realized was moving into pure 100% belief that this was a fake system, fake reality. And the new one, the real one was you had to believe in it for it to become real.
Joyce: Well people have a problem believing in anything, unless they have proof. That's why it may be this transitional state, which we don't want to talk about days of darkness or anything like that, because it can be wasily and smoothly, depending upon mankind's ability to allow it to happen,
which you said would it only be possible?
No, at that point they stopped speaking. I have nothing after that, it would only be possible if they have a cutting off going like this. (scissors motion) I don't know if you can see that they're saying it has to be a cutting off of the old. There has to be a cutting off of the old and the bringing in of the new.
Now you and I both know how resistant people are, but it would be so great for the planet because you would not be as reliant as you are on power plants. On nuclear energy on energies that may not be for the best of mankind, Tesla, Edison, all the people who contributed greatness will now be able to come together.
They don't want you to think of individual names, but they want you to think of it as a cosmic energy will be brought into the, onto the planet, but there's going to be tremendous resistance because people like going to the store and getting what they want. And there has to be more self-reliance now.
Lane: So Tesla was the one who said everything is energy. Now we may think we know what that means, but if we put our full energetic forces into the new and real reality, isn't that what he really meant by everything is energy? Okay, thank you for that confirmation. So right now we're pouring our energies into the old system.
Even those of us who think they've broken free or, or are fully aware we're still feeding it with our energies by fighting it.
The better thing to do is almost to ignore it act as though it doesn't exist. And then it won't, that'll become a reality. It won't exist for you anymore.
Joyce: So is there a question with that?
Lane: What you put your energy into becomes real? Yeah. So then that system, that energetic reality, we need to yank our energy from it.
Joyce: I don't know if it's a statement. It was very good by the way.
Lane: Isn't that what Nikola meant by everything is energy, right? Energy, right.
Joyce: Yes. That's what he meant. And
there has to be more acknowledgement of what the sun actually is. He wants you to know more about the sun and about solar energy. Not that you should go and put solar panels on your house because that's ridiculous because there could be a cloudy day and it could be possible that you don't really have a roof.
Lane: It's not ridiculous to everyone. Some people can do it, but go ahead.
Joyce: So it's too dicey. So he wants you to acknowledge what the sun actually is. It's a manifestation, by the way, there's more than one sun.
Lane: I've heard that. How many are there?
Joyce: There are many, there's an infinite number of suns and universes.As you know.
Lane: But in our solar system, we have more than one.
Joyce: Within the solar system, there are numerous suns and planets that have yet to be discovered. And then of course there are universes and universes. There are an infinite number I should know. Yes. So what is the
Lane: question? You were saying he wants us to know the power of the sun.
So what is it that we should know?
Joyce: Okay. For one thing, he's speaking about solar flares and the fact that it's related to shaking of the earth, it can be. So they're using the sun and solar flares to cause the shaking of the earth, if it's necessary and volcanoes to erupt. And he's talking about drilling.
The, how wrong it is to drill into the earth, it's like drilling into a tooth and having a nerve exposed.
Lane: So talking about oil and fracking, it's just awful.
Joyce: And speaking about fracking. So he says that really has to stop. Yes. So did you have a question?
Lane: Is the sun a source of food? I'm told that if you use the sun's energy and some people stare at the sun, first thing in the morning, last thing at night you get to a point where you don't need food. Pulling in its energy by looking directly into it.
Joyce: That's correct. Yes, that's correct. But it's not adequate. There also needs to, okay. What he's showing me seeds seeds for growth that have to be left in the sun first, really energized by the sun before planting.
Anything that you use? He said, you can take the eyes of potatoes that most people cut out and throw away. He said those can be used as planters, but everything should be put in the sun first, whether you use crystals or whatever you use should always have solar energy first, approximately three days.
Lane: That's wonderful news. And what else?
Joyce: Before you drink water, it should be blessed. You say thank you. Gratitude is extremely important as and also you might want to leave water before you drink it. And the sun on a window sill first, even for an hour would be good when the sun is shining.
If it happens that you have a period of darkness, again, we don't want to say three days, and there's no heat anywhere. He said do not panic. Do not feel fear of any kind.
Lane: Just express gratitude.
Joyce: Yes. Go to sleep. And when you wake and it'll be fine.
Okay. He said, just try to go to sleep and try to be at rest or stay inside. Try to be at peace. Help your neighbors if they need help, share. Okay.
Lane: Thank you. Yes, absolutely.
Joyce: Don't express fear of any kind over anything because everything is very transitional.
Lane: Anything else we need to know?
Joyce: Sure. Do you have a question?
Lane: A thousand, but before we sign off for tonight, is there anything else he wants to leave us with?We know it's the collective. So they're all speaking through Tesla right now, is that correct?
Joyce: Nobody's identifying themselves, but they are doing a cosmic energy kind of thing.
Lane: What we need from our audience are questions. So please send them in to LIFESOURCEHUB@GMAIL.COM and we will do our best to get them answered in the shows to come.
Joyce: Can you tell us why you chose that name?
Lane: I actually did not choose that name. The people that I was aligned with had already chosen it and had already begun the group. So it was an easy transition over now. It's funny because the first person who started the group has since left and the second one has had to take a bit of a backseat due to situation in Canada.
So the name refers to our connection with Source, our connection with the divine within, the ability to create and to create this wondrous world that we know exists. The love light that's in each one of us, and so on. So I thought it was a good name.
The email, if you would like to have questions addressed our LifeSourcehub@gmail.com for our website, it's LifeSource.global. There, you can find information on the shows and the organization and so forth, but we too work as a collective, we're not here for individual aggrandizement or ego. So you won't find a lot of that on the website, but rather where we're headed and why and what the shows are about.
So we do have an interesting lineup ,everything from sound healing to maneuvering financial freedom within the structure that we're in right now, strategies that work, that had been tried by members of the group. We have historical uncoverings and putting the pieces together of where we've been, where we are now and where we're going, ties in the history with the Galactics and our future.
A lot of interesting stuff. One of which of course is our show, Talking Galactic. So Nikola and Mr. Faraday and Edison and everyone else who's here, we truly appreciate you coming in and would invite you to come in as much as you would like. We hope to have this show more frequently than we have in the past.
And if you ever should just want us to do a show so you can speak, let us know,
Joyce: Can I ask you a question? Yes. They're speaking about ConEd. Who is ConEd named after?
Lane: Yes, they supply electricity in New York and it was named after Edison.
Joyce: Okay. Did we mention Edison because he's saying don't forget about me.
Lane: I just thanked him and invited him back.
Joyce: Okay. I wasn't sure. Cause they're telling me about ConEdison.
Lane: you mentioned that he was here along with Mr. Faraday. So , absolutely. Everyone was in their own way working toward betterment of the planet. They didn't mean for their work to be usurped and oh, what's the word?
Joyce: usurped. That's correct. It went into the collective and if you could look at it that way, it would be less hurtful.
Lane: It was used against the people instead of for the people,
Joyce: It went into the collective, which could be used, either for the negative or the positive. So if it continues,it's not going to be allowed. There'e a real cut off time. There's a cutoff time now I want that energy to be used positively.
Lane: Thank you. So do we, and we will do anything we can to help that situation.
Joyce: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Lane: All right. So unless there's anything else they would like to share?
Joyce: Love one another.
Lane: Yes, we love one another and we love you. And we thank you so much for all of Joyce. We thank you. And all those who are here, we thank you for your input and your. All right, so next time. Have a great few days.
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Lane: Hello everyone. Hello, Joyce.
Joyce: Good evening Lane.
Lane: Good evening. I'd like to welcome everyone to our new show Talking Galactic, which was formerly known as the Arcturians or the Arcturians and Friends. We now have a new home at LifeSource. Hopefully you found us on one of their channels. We will be putting information in the description below as to what the channels are and where you can find us, but we're very glad to be back after a brief hiatus.
I'd like to introduce my cohost and mother Joyce Keller.
Joyce: Hello. Hello everyone.
Lane: Hi, an internationally renowned, psychic and author of many books. Instrumental in changing the lives of thousands. I would say you've been on most major TV shows. When you were actively pursuing that aspect of things.
Now you're primarily doing readings and writing and doing shows like this, right, Ma?
Joyce: I'm doing a lot of radio, also regular radio as well as podcasts. I'm out there.
Lane: You and dad, when dad was alive, had the longest running new-- I hate to call it new age, but we'll call it alternative because it really was alternative.
It still would be considered that, but back in the day, it was really out there for some people where you talked about health and the control system of religion and just in general people's spirituality. That was the Joyce Keller show. And that ran for what, 35 years.
Joyce: I try not to think of all those years because people tack on years on top of that and they say, oh, they're really old.
Lane: they don't. You did a lot of other stuff at the same time.
Joyce: Say that I started very young that's the real main message I started young.
Lane: Right? Of course you were 12.
The show is still running on blogtalk radio, which is all on your website. Joyce keller.com.
Joyce: It's actually called TIME FOR JOY .
Lane: We are here to talk about all things, galactic, astral, metaphysical, but more importantly, we use these tools as a way of examining today's circumstances. What's going on the world stage. How do we change it? How do we address it? What's going on with people's mindsets? What are the messages from the teachers who are here with us? From time to time visitors drop in, actually not from time to time, all the time. They're all here. They're here right now and we will talk to them. We'll bring you messages. We'll try to translate what they're saying as best we can and my mother is particularly excellent at doing this sort of thing.
We will bring in requests for guests also. And we're talking about astral guests. Of course. That being said, I just want to make a mention about what channeling isn't. We're not channeling. I know there's been a lot of info in the past 10 years or so about how channelers were corrupted.
And that is true. There was a program, a deep state program, a PSYOP in which channelers, and psychics were used to deliver false information that still may be going on, but we are not channeling here. We are merely talking and relaying answers. Ma, how would you explain what you do, how you do it?
Joyce: I think the problem was we started off with the Arcturians because they have made their presence known now to so many people, including
Lane: no problem, because
Joyce: The problem is I said, is that a lot of teachers like Tesla come in and because of the lack of ego or because cosmic laws, they don't necessarily identify themselves and they will deliver messages.
They'll tell us what we need to know what they think we would like to hear at this time. they don't necessarily say this is a message from that may happen also. So we really leave ourselves open. But Lane, I have a question for you. Are people able to email you or text you messages while you can actually receive questions?
Lane: Sure. I can keep my eyes on my email, but more importantly, this is not going to be live so that doesn't help anyone. This will be recorded and then replayed and then people can watch it, at their leisure.
So there won't be alive access. We can do that in the future. We can do live shows. In fact, definitely do that.
Joyce: That would be good. Right. That's great. Okay.
Lane: So every month or scheduled regularly. No problem.
But here's what I wanted to say, is that yes, they are very humble and they don't announce their presence with a lot of fanfare and say, oh, you know, I'm Nicola Tesla here.
I'll ask you right now. Who's here. Who have we got in the lobby?
Joyce: Okay, good question. Well, it's very interesting because the teachers of self-realization, I don't know if the audience knows who the teachers, the primary teachers are, but that was Yogananda and company. His book was AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A YOGI and his teacher was Babaji. They were waiting for me to figure out technically how we could connect this evening.
They said they wanted to discuss Christ Consciousness.
Lane: Wonderful. Well, welcome Yogananda, Babaji, what an extreme honor it is to have you here.
Joyce: Yeah, they, they speak about terms of in terms of dimension mostly. And as you know, we've been kind of stuck in the third dimension for eons of time. I'm not sure how long, but all the virus and everything that's going on now is blessing us to look at ourselves more honestly, as we move forward into the forest beyond dimension, but the teachers like Babaji and Yogananda and, and so forth, we're not going to start naming names. They are usually at the eighth and higher dimension.
That's the Godhead dimension. So as we move forward now from the third dimension into the fourth dimension and fifth, it's really a glorious experience. It's going to be much, much better. You're going to say, well, you, what about my job? Well, there are going to be a lot of changes on the earth. And the main thing is not to be in a place of fear.
Now I'm not identifying teachers that are saying what and how, I'm just giving general information. So even though I have to cough, excuse me, which means. If I cough, it means my energy is changing. But the interesting thing about Christ Consciousness is that the message comes through very clearly and I believe it is from Yogananda, who said we're not in any way diminishing Jesus and the work that he did, because if you read his book Autobiography of a Yogi, you will see that Yogananda and company were very, very attached to Jesus and Christ Consciousness. It's very much a book about the universal laws of Jesus. I don't want to say Christianity because that brings in a whole ball I'm not interested in unraveling at this time.
Lane: We should address the idea of Christianity versus Christ Consciousness, what the difference is, but please go ahead.
Joyce: Well, one is religion and dogma and the other is not now. I give you the short form of it.
One is rules made up by man, which is dogma and the other is purely of the God essence. So we don't have to go back to that. We can just release it unless there's anything else that need to be addressing. But what I wanted to say, because there was an interest in Christ Consciousness, which is a very, very challenging subject because it's the essence of life. Christ Consciousness--which they're telling me--which is also known, let me get this right--It's an essence of Christ consciousness. It's a self realization. It's an awareness of the self. It's a unity with the divine. So it's not a religious concept by religion. I mean, rules primarily.
Lane: I don't believe that religions want to connect you to the divine. They would like their middlemen to remain in place in sometimes ornate buildings. And then they collect your money and they want you to follow their rules. They want you to accept sin. Well, I wasn't born with any sin where you?
Joyce: yes, I believe
Lane: I believe.
Joyce: No, no, no. I believe I said you asked the question. I'll tell you what I feel when we come in. We come in with a soul, a soul contract, as we now, most of us know now, and that involves anything that has still been unresolved or unworked in our past life histories, past lifetimes that we've had.
So how can there be anything like, oh, a brand new baby that doesn't exist. That little baby comes in with an assault or karmic record
Lane: karmic record. And I'm saying sin. Karma is balancing. Doesn't mean you come in with sin, you come in for balancing of what you may have done or experienced experiencing your previous life.
Joyce: Wait, see that word sin is very dicey because I don't know really.
Lane: I object to it because it is used freely in multiple religions. The idea that we were born with sin.
Joyce: We may not be born with sin, but we're born with a record. That's what the astrological chart shows us. Those are the lessons let's say rather than using the word sin, which gets us in a lot of trouble.
Let's say that we're, we're born with a prior soul record that has to be addressed. If you come in with nothing in your astrological chart, you come in with no lessons and I have never heard of that happening. So let's get rid of the word sin and replace it with "lessons."
Lane: Well, that, that makes me feel better.
Joyce: All right. So, so that's it. I think we were talking about Christ Consciousness.
Lane: Self awareness, unity with the divine is where you had left off.
Joyce: Unity with the divine comes with understanding the essence of the teachings of Christ, the messages that he wanted to bring forth.
Yes, of course he was a rebel and all of that, because at the time it didn't allow anything like that. But going beyond that, if you go to the teachings of the Rishi who were the ancient Hindus or any of the old, really old religions, the Ayurvedic teachings and so forth, you'll see that they think that the United States is basically ridiculous because we're having such childish conversations with each other.
Like, is there such a thing as reincarnation. So that's part of the price consciousness.
Lane: It is absurd that people still don't believe in reincarnation. What do you, what do you attribute that to?
Joyce: Again, religion has interfered, cut it off, eliminated from the Bible. Any references that had to do with reincarnation or being born before there are always lessons to be learned.
Even when we finished this lifetime, there are other zillions of dimensions, all waiting to be uncovered. So we're not just going to be flying around on a cloud somewhere. There are always, there's always room for expansion,
Lane: Yes, but it's not just religion that cause I know very non-religious people who still don't believe in reincarnation because it's not scientific in their words.
Joyce: It doesn't matter. The fact is that, how could we be as complicated as we are if we had not existed before.
Lane: Well, we can see the logic in that, but it's still, to them it's not proof.
Joyce: In that case, you have to say, maybe there needs to be some study. Study a little or a lot, read the TIBETAN BOOK OF THE DEAD. Read some old classics like the TEACHINGS OF THE MASTERS OF THE FAR EAST that really give you insight into soul development.
If you really read it with an open mind, You'll say, well, I only read the Bible well, okay. That's fine too. You always just read the Bible.
Lane: I don't, I don't know anyone who reads the Bible. I have to be honest with you. But then again Edgar Cayce read the Bible every year cover to cover.
Joyce: Yes. At a certain point, his teacher said to him, Edgar, we love you so much, but you know what? You're going to have to be a walk-in because you're too caught up in that Bible thing. So at that point, when he was about, I think in his early thirties, I'm not sure about the time he was overshadowed was another entity that came in that brought in universal teachings and allowed him to do about 15,000 readings that brought so much wisdom to the earth.
We set up our own limitations.
Lane: Sure. Well, I'd love to discuss walk-ins, but if Paramahansa Yogananda and Sri Babaji are here is there more that they'd like to say on Christ Consciousness?
Joyce: and sharing a lot about what we just said? I mean, they, they don't identify themselves, but a lot of it is just coming through as pure teachings. Take it or leave it. This is now what we're receiving. So we're, we're we're we, we were talking about
Lane: Well, you weren't we were to read the Tibetan Book of the Dead or Teachings of the Masters of the Far East by Baird Spalding, should you need a little convincing. Prior to that you said Christ Consciousness was about the teachings of Christ and his messages.
Joyce: I just wanted to say in keeping with what you just said, Lane, the ultimate purpose of Christ Consciousness or universal consciousness, which is probably a better term, is to connect with the divine, the Indans have known about this forever it's called SAMADHI, or if you meditate and you bring your consciousness up to the crown chakra and you're at one with the divine, that's the purpose of physical life.
That's the highest consciousness. Again, it's samadhi, nirvana, you have a million names for it, but it's all the same. It's a state of deep spiritual bliss. Yogananda and his book and all of the teachings from the self-realization fellowship in Los Angeles has that information.
If you're interested, you can get it on your computer and you can automate lessons from them, self-realization lessons.
Lane: It doesn't need to be all that complicated. Right? The initial steps to Christ Consciousness, I would say. Open your heart. Number one, start thinking from the heart.
If that makes sense, get your head out of things. Become the Christed being that you were meant to be by loving, and there is something lovable in every human being on this planet and definitely every living thing. If you can start there, that's a great first step. Another is the greater connection to the divine.
Simply by opening your heart, you've taken a major step, but also listening and being aware of the messages that are coming through, and stop saying, "well, science doesn't support that." Throw that out the window and start understanding that messages and answers and connection come through every moment of your life.
You have to be open to them and you have to read them. In other words, when you see those synchronicities, those aren't mistakes. Coincidences don't exist. I could go on from there. I'm sure you have a lot to contribute, but you don't have to go to an extensive school. You can take it step by step.
Joyce: This opportunity never existed before the way it does now. Exactly what you're saying, because they clear away a lot of debris and a lot of people are k clearing things away. It's as if our Creator is saying to us, you want to go, you want to stay? Do you want to grow?
You want to sit still like, you know, make up your mind and it's time to move forward. So that was brilliantly said.
Lane: Thank you. But I was trying to hone in on exactly what Christ Consciousness is. The other thing is you really do have to understand that base emotions like fear, anger remorse, guilt extreme sadness--of course, we all experience that and we have things go on in our lives--but undo unending, heartrending agony is not necessary. Not if you understand where people go after death and why we're here. It doesn't need to be that severe. It is, it's heartrending. I know, but don't give into those base emotions. Instead, transmute them. Instead of anger, forgive, forgiveness is only step one.
The next step is thanking the person. So whatever issue you have at hand, if you can immediately forgive them, which really shouldn't be too hard if you're loving and acting from the heart. Then move into a state of gratitude. I dislike that term because it's so overused these days. But it's true.
If you can thank that individual or the circumstance for being in your life, because you know that it's created some kind of change in yourself or brought you a greater understanding of something, then you've gone a long way to eliminating anger. This goes for every base emotion that we feel. If you can channel that into a state of acceptance and joy and gratitude you're well, on your way.
The other, and this, you taught us from a very young age, is very easy. The golden rule Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you. It's so basic. And it holds true to every life circumstance it has never failed ever, not once. I mean, it really is the Golden Rule.
Just follow it. That's it. That's all you have to do. It's so simple.
Joyce: Didn't you also have it hang up on your bathroom wall.
Lane: Of course. Same as you. I had it up for my kids. So in other words, when you're in the bathroom, you can't help seeing it every day, at least however many times you go to the bathroom.
Joyce: You made me remember about that.
Lane: This sounds so boring and blasé, but seriously, if you commit to other people's happiness, without sacrificing yourself, and of course we need healthy boundaries, but if you commit to doing things for others, that's another step on the way to Christ Consciousness. You remember back in the seventies or so, was it eighties that all the kids wore these bands around their wrists that say, what would Jesus do? I never had one of those, but that was a step in the right direction.
Joyce: I would say most definitely.
And sometimes when things become so challenging, What would Jesus do? Well, he never encountered anything like this. You know, he, he wore sandals, but really, essentially that is correct. I have a question which is totally unrelated. Okay. Before you mentioned about grieving and about death, I think in passing it, you kind of went over that quickly.
What do you think about the Jewish religion. Unless I'm not understanding this correctly. It says, okay. Here's the deal folks, so-and-so is dead. Look, he's in the box, he's gone. You get to grieve for one year and then after one year of intense, grieving, whatever you wish to. It's over, they have the unveiling and they say goodbye. After a year you unveil the memorial, the tombstone or whatever they have and that's it. And then you start your life. You get one year of grieving. That's the point I'm making.
Lane: I think it's healthy. I mean, I think a little, a little much at times, but we're still sad over dad's death and there's a place that can never be filled, but we don't mourn.
Joyce: All words that are very confusing. I don't know the difference between mourning and grief and sorrow and sadness and all of that.
Lane: I guess what I'm talking about is the people who rip their hair and rend their breasts and scream and holler in grief.
I'm not belittling that. But it goes on for too long. And you're the one who taught me this, you're holding the spirit here. That is what prevents me from going into deep states of grief. Because knowing if you do that, they are here. You're, you're anchoring them here
Joyce: But if you really miss them. Before you go to sleep at night and say, please, a little visitation would be nice. And I'd like to remember. I mean, we visit out of body all the time to go to the astral zone or wherever our loved ones are. And our teachers and our guides, we're all chilling together.
We're having a great time. And then we come back into our bodies. And for the most part we don't remember. So you have to say, I really would like to remember. I'd like to bring those memories back because I had such a good time with you last night. And it's, it's really very healing. And of course, if you go, this is very difficult, but if you go to a medium who can do this, that's also very healing and very enjoyable, but in most cases, it's fraudulent, which is why I wrote the book SEVEN STEPS TO HEAVEN. I had to throw that in. Yes, it's helpful.
Lane: Why would you say it's fraudulent? You have to explain this.
Joyce: Okay. A lot of mediums are fraudulent.
Lane: How does somebody know the difference?
Joyce: It's very hard to tell because usually if it's not fraudulent, if it's the truth the, the medium, the psychic is just talking about what's happening in your life, which is great. But mediumship is connection as you know, to the spirit world. So if the medium says your husband is saying that you're still wearing your toe ring on your third toe, and that he gave it to you when you were married six weeks, you see, that's very good. That's very specific. But if you go to a medium who gives such broad generalizations and says, oh, I'm doing fine. I missed you. I'm sending you love, that's not good enough. You have to use your discernment.
Lane: You need something. It's very specific that, that no one else has.
Joyce: Right. The specifics count a lot.
Lane: So when you channel, I hate, sorry, wrong word. When you,
Joyce: We can use the word channel.
Lane: We can't say channel because that movement was so infiltrated.
Joyce: Let's say transmit.
Lane: Okay. I was going to say communicate
Joyce: Okay, communicate. That's good.
Lane: Because you wrote the book SEVEN STEPS TO HEAVEN, HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH THOSE YOU'VE LOVED AND LOST.
Now, hold on. I'm not plugging indiscriminately. One of the things that you do is connect to loved ones very readily. So what happens when you do that? for instance, I've been in many situations with you when we've walked into a room or somebody has come in and you said, oh, Aunt Sheila's here, or your grandmother said, oh, make sure you pick up the blue ring, not the red on.
Joyce: But you know, sometimes in all fairness Lane, the medium doesn't have to use words as you. And I know because we did something really foolish right after your dad passed away. Oh no, no, no. That was terrible. There were no words spoken, but it was just heavy duty crying. So that's not good. That was too soon.
We shouldn't have done that.
Lane: It was too shocking. He went very suddenly with no warning and he was extremely healthy and one second, he's there, one second he's not. It was very traumatizing.
Joyce: But I'm saying when we went to Staten island, that was unsettling because he came through so quickly with no words, like I had just said, let the medium say something very specific for verification, but I just contradicted myself because when we went to Staten Island to a medium like a couple of weeks after your dad passed away, which was totally foolish, we shouldn't have done that. Although it was, was intense, grabbing, hugging, and crying. So for both of us.
Lane: The thing is though, you're very experienced and you know when something's real or not, and you felt his presence was there.
Joyce: Right. And there were no words spoken. So I had to, I have to contradict myself. If you have something like that happen and the feeling is so overwhelming, then that's, that's good too, but use your discernment.
That's what I tried to talk about and write about and teach people to be helpful. Like a lot of times I'll do a phone, a telephone reading. Of course I can't see the person, but the first thing I will tell them is please try to tape the reading. And the second thing is don't tell me anything, don't say anything.
And the third thing is I will say, just say yes or no. If I ask you a question just say yes or no, please don't say anything else. Because it sounds like nothing to you, but the medium who's receiving it will receive it as a great help. And you don't want that. You don't want to give any help. You want verification.
You want a feeling of truth and honesty.
Lane: Sometimes a psychic or medium needs a little help, and it's not that they need help. They need a little entry into the situation and an eye view, and then they can really run with it.
Joyce: That's true because maybe you don't want to speak a lot about the uncle that you lost or whatever, you want to speak about your job.
That's a psychic's job. And you want specific information about when you got to get a job again, when the money's going to start flowing.
Lane: But sometimes if you don't direct them to really hone in on an issue, the reading is too broad. Look, you only have an hour or sometimes half an hour that you're paying for.
So you don't want them to have some rambling where they're trying to pull in information and figure out what you need to hear. Instead, you want to have them hone in on something very, very specific, an issue that you're struggling with, or that needs to be addressed. So you sometimes do have to give them information to bring them to that point and you have to set it up.
Absolutely. You really have to set it up. So there are very good psychics who can work with that and give you good info at that point. But if you waste all that time leading into it, you don't get, what your, their.
Joyce: I'm having a terrific time lately because I'm a big Facebook fan.
I'm ashamed to say it, but it's totally true. And the reason it's important is that there are so many people coming out onto Facebook saying that they're doing psychic readings and it's so interesting to see exactly how these people are handling the readings that are coming. You know, the request for readings and the extent of desperation. Now, last night I went onto Facebook and there was a person on there whom I've never heard of before, which doesn't mean anything, but I've never heard of her before.
And I could tell from looking at her that she was very new at the game of doing readings and thought that this is going to be very interesting. Let me see, let me see what she can come up. Well, in two seconds, she had almost 700 people logging on. Cause they give the number right under her picture.
Usually in the very beginning, they don't give you the number of how many people are coming onto the site. Within moments. There were over a thousand, which tells you just how desperate people are for connection.
Lane: How many can she read? I mean, physically, how much can the person read?
Joyce: So of course I was watching it.
Lane: Was it one question per person? Or how did that work?
Joyce: Yeah, it was usually one question per person and the questions were vague. The answers were even more vague and it's usually done with cards. So that's my answer. And they go very quickly and sometimes they spend a long time, a lot of hot air.
The bottom line of what I wanted to discuss with you today is that people are desperate. And that's why you and I are here to allay some of that desperation.
Lane: So desperation is one of those--is it a necessary emotion? Does it keep you from connecting? I mean, we're in in one of those do or die or life or death situations right now. We're at the precipice.
Joyce: I agree. Desperation is terrific. Because as an example, if you go onto Facebook or any of these sites where there have been so-called psychics, you will see that it's not satisfying, that you have to do something better. You are suffering. You've just lost a loved one. If you read the messages that come in, as they come into Facebook and what they want the psychic to do, they'll say my husband just died or my baby's in an incubator or dying, I need help. And you know, those people will not even get readings because they're coming in so rapidly there's no way that anybody could address them. So you're able to read them and you'll see the extent of desperation.
Lane: What do you say because people are going through major hardship.
Joyce: Yes. Okay. This is, this is a time, obviously. I'm glad you asked the question. You know the answer already. The answer is it's time to raise your consciousness, which is why the energy on the earth is changing. We could not continue with these stupidity of the third dimension. We have to say, Let's find God, where could God be?
Let's see, now let's look around for God. Oh, maybe he is within me, maybe my higher self. Maybe I should actually try to get the answer myself. And that's what this show's all about. The God is within. And if you ever saw anyone die, as I have, you can see that the essence like a cloudy, white essence, leaves the body and then the body just kind of disintegrates.
So the soul goes back to the Creator. So the intelligence, this is an impossible answer. It's an impossible question because nobody really can address exactly where the intelligence is, but it's partly within us. And it's partly within our Creator, which is part of our higher self. So it's actually in three parts.
It's the Creator who made us. And our higher consciousness, which is actually one in the same. It's so interesting. You have people who are so much like you you'll see someone say, gee, I know you so well--they're part of your Akashic, part of your family field or tree or whatever you wish to call it, there could be thousands of souls that are almost at one with you.
And ultimately we're all created as one, but on that path to perfection, you'll see that there are passive separation. So how could I be related to Hitler? Well, that's another show, so I know you
Lane: That's crazy time on Hitler. We really, really should do a show on Hitler.
Joyce: That's next week's show.
Lane: We need to pick that apart.
Joyce: It's very easy. It's very easy.
Lane: Well, it demands a discussion.
Joyce: Yeah. You have to remember though. He was a vegetarian.
Lane: Oh my gosh. It's just so confusing. Wasn't he an artist also?
Joyce: He was a great artist. And he was a vegetarian.
Lane: And he had a UFO. This was a Renaissance man. So what happened?
Joyce: What happened is that we're not always in touch with our higher selves and Hitler is a perfect example of the disconnection from the higher self plus, he was here to do his karmic purpose, which nobody, I do not wish to address that, but that's--
Lane: it always gets us in trouble when we discuss.
Joyce: Yeah. But you know what? One thing that will not get us in trouble is to say, be aware. If you say, be aware
Lane: What do you mean?
Joyce: You'd be much smarter, be aware...This is where I get in trouble.
Lane: I'm going to get you in trouble right now because you know, I'm going after this, you know I'm going to ask you the next question, but go ahead. So be aware of... the fact that not everything is as it seems.
Joyce: That's right. Thank you.
Lane: And that, while he did, he helped to commit genocide, and did absolutely deplorable things, in a way it served humanity. Oh please. All my Jewish friends are going be so mad at me, but
Joyce: No, we said nice things about the before about the unveiling .
Lane: ...the trial and tribulation, and believe me, it wasn't just the Jews. There were genocides going on in many different places. Many of which never made it to the light of day. It was swept under the rug.
Joyce: I know that I was a nun. Part of the killing process. I was one of the people he exterminated. So I know that.
Lane: What I'm saying is there was a reason that humanity needed to go through some kind of accelerated growth process. Right? What was the karmic reason for that do you think?
Joyce: Well, you know, I believe before we are born, we're given choices. This is where we get in trouble. You're given the choice.
Lane: I'm going to leave now.
Joyce: No, you can't. Before you come into an earthly incarnation and sometimes you just get too frightened and say, no, I can't do it and then you have a stillborn, God forbid -- you don't want to take the body. But before you're born, you sit with your guides, your master teachers, your angels whatever they set up for you.
And they say, okay, this is, you have some choices. Would you like accelerated karma? This is where we speed you right along, and where you have like nine lives where you have
Lane: I'm picking slow next time.
Joyce: Well, the slow is not a treat either because you know, it might be the addressing of blindness, serious handicaps. There's some heavy, heavy duty things like that. Yes. That's a slow path.
Lane: Oh, that's terrible. How about the fast path?
Joyce: The fast path is where Hitler kills you in an hour.
Lane: All right. How about in between? Can we do ...a moderate walk.
Joyce: That's where we're going now. As we leave the third dimension, which was Hitler and all of that, and the wars, whereas if we change and we truly do go into the golden age of Aquarius we have less of those choices. We realize that we can do-- I don't want to use the word infractions--but let's say things that were, that we have to deal with the lessons, and you know, you don't have to go through karmic corrections. You can just have an awareness that it was wrong to kill someone certain, you know, you couldn't have that awareness.
Lane: Agreed. You can ameliorate your own karma by immediately rectifying the situation, understanding what went wrong and accepting responsibility for it and never doing it again.
Joyce: Exactly. I love that word ameliorate. I haven't heard of this for a long time.
Lane: I love that word.
Joyce: Thank you for using it. Yes, because it's really the obliteration or the altering of lessons, and you don't have to have them. I mean, there are some things that you might have to experience cause your soul says, yeah, I think I really would like that. Because you you're out of body, you're in a heavenly blissful state and you say, sure, I can handle that. I can handle a fire. You know, I can handle an accident.
When it actually happens, it's, it's, it's a whole different situation. And of course you guides never, never leave your side. You're never alone. And you can say, well, gee, I think that's a really bad idea. I changed my mind and I'll say, well, okay, we'll pull you out of it.
And you know, sometimes you have to experience it or you want to experience it. Other times it can be ameliorated where you don't have to go through with it. The lessons can be very harsh.
Lane: I look at it this way. I made a decision as you know, a long time ago that I was done with karma. It was a little innocent on my part.
Joyce: I'm happy for you.
Lane: I decided no more karma. I was already living a fairly decent life. I never hurt anyone. Definitely never intentionally. But I would be circumspect in everything that I did, and I would absolutely a hundred percent live by the Golden Rule.
Always have always will, and always do exactly what we're talking about here about Christ Consciousness. You can still have fun and enjoy yourself. Not saying to live like a saint for heaven's sake, but I just really didn't want to tangle with karma.
Joyce: Here's the question. Did you ever kill a bug?
Lane: You know, just the other day I had something extremely ugly on my refrigerator. And I got a glass. And a little piece of paper and I put him in the glass and I said, be free bug. And I threw them out the back door.
Joyce: Yes. But think about earlier years, have you ever killed a mouse or a bug or anything?
Lane: Yes, but I won't use those sticky traps and I will use the, if I have to, because they eat your insulation and do things, you put them in a humane trap and you release them.
Joyce: What's the humane trap. I'm interested.
Lane: It doesn't kill them. And then you release them. They're green.
Joyce: A green humane trap. It doesn't hurt them?
Lane: Not that I am aware of. I don't think so. Not like those sticky, horrible, horrible. The most torturous sticky things.
Joyce: I know. I know. You told me about what happened.
Lane: So if you kill a bug, you're going to receive karma? You've seem to be saying that we can't kill bugs. So
Joyce: it's not just, what about,
Lane: what about termites?
Joyce: I mean, did you ever make any one-- Okay. Let's put that to the side. Cause that's an impossible question.
Lane: You know who we need here for that discussion, is dad. Is he here? Because he would have the answer. He would know
Joyce: Okay, here's a question. Did you ever make anyone cry or feel bad?
Lane: I hope not. I don't know. Probably.
Joyce: That's karma.
Lane: What if you didn't do it knowingly or intentionally.
Joyce: No, but if you, if you ever had any, if you ever did anything that caused any kind of reaction, that's karma. It's almost impossible to be in a physical body and not accidentally sit on a bee or something.
This is a gray area, this whole karma thing. I'm not sure about it, but I do know that as we go into the fifth dimension, there will be the washing away of karma. Even though we wrote the book, called Karmascopes.
Lane: Well, we had to rename it. Remember the publisher made us change it like 11 times? That publisher. It went through so many different --Remember, we went to Penguin and they were going to take it. They said, We don't know about this title.
Joyce: You didn't mention the basic conception of the title, which is the funniest thing of all.
Lane: Oh no, no, please don't make me rehash that story. We were just about to talk about something interesting, which I completely forgot now. We'll tell that story another time. It's it's so painful.
Now I have to tell the story. Okay. So I don't know what year it was. I wake up in the middle of the night because I'm having a very, very vivid dream. And this is back in the years when Oprah Winfrey, we didn't realize she's the evil person that she is. We thought she was nice. And good. So she was holding a book, a small book with a dark colored cover with white letters.
Just very simple. I can still see the lettering all these years ago, and you and I had written it. I just knew it. So I peered in, I got the name of the book. It was called Karmascopes. So I call you the next day or probably that night. I say, Ma what is Karmascopes?
You said, Oh, it's so simple. A child could do it. We figured out what it was. And we wrote this incredible book on what your life experiences mean. It was a dictionary of sorts, a guidance system. Remember Louise Hay's book, the first one she came out with, the blue book, How to Heal your Life? Like that, where you could flip it open and see: My left leg just got caught in the door.
What a crazy, insane idea this was, but we, we managed to break it down into broad categories. And at the end of each chapter we had long lists and what they meant. I mean, it was absolutely brilliant.
Joyce: It really was brilliant. It was fabulous.
Lane: This is back in 2004. I want to say,
Joyce: I don't remember. It's a bad memory.
Lane: I know. It's awful. I still can't even hear the name without getting itchy. So, what would happen is we, we had agents, there was Alison, June--we went through many agents and they're all in love with the book and the concept. Claire was another agent. Was she, another agent?
They knew that it was brilliant, but they didn't understand it. And they take us on these rides of: we're going to publish your book, but you just have to change this, this, this, this, and this. And we were innocent at the time. We didn't know. We're like, oh, okay, we just have to change this, this, this, and this. And they'll buy the book. Well, no, and this happened over and over again. So I, one day years later, said, if I ever hear the name, Karmascopes again, I'm going to throw myself off the nearest building on. Please, I am done.
So what you did is you took the book, you reformed it, changed the name and you resold it to the Edgar Cayce publishing house, ARE Press.
Joyce: A whole different title.
Lane: A different title, and no idea what happened to our karmic dictionary. Do you?
Lane: So, yeah, that's a long, sad story, and I've never forgiven Oprah to this day. Well anyway, then I found out she's a child trafficker. Now the woman is on my dirt list. But moving forward, what were we talking about before that?
Joyce: I don't know. I'm so traumatized now by the whole Karmascopes story.
Lane: Well, it just goes to show you can't trust your dreams.
Joyce: Well, no, normally you can. And the fact is that it was a matter of timing. I think if you had had that dream now, or maybe five years ago, it would have -- your timing was off. And I think a lot of times we receive spiritual messages or timing or even a meditation, and it's like, I thought it was going to be tomorrow. No, it's 10 years from now.
Lane: This is 16 years later.
Joyce: Yeah, they'd be thrilled to have it.
Lane: They wish.
Joyce: The fact is that probably all those agents are no longer in the publishing business. They all got fired.
Lane: Everyone in the publishing business got fired a few years after that, they lost their jobs, they all became independent editors. And then Amazon really took off and destroyed the lives of all living authors. So it's true.
Joyce: That's a beautiful story because it shows how spirit works with you. And it shows there's that disconnect where we don't understand about the time and in the spirit world, they have a whole different sense of time.
A lot of people are contacting me and asking about the, I don't know, some of the Bible of where it's from about the three days of darkness.
Lane: I thought we put that to rest like a year ago.
Joyce: Well, I thought so too, but apparently not. Apparently it's coming around again.
Lane: I really think that most people know it's not happening or it's a euphemism.
Joyce: We would like to believe that, but there's a possibility, a very remote possibility that the grid may go down, or there may be something where people need to reevaluate their lives and not be afraid. There may be changes. This is really what I think. I hate to say it, but if we take too long in shifting from the third, the fourth dimension, it may happen.
Anyone who tells you a time table may not be correct. It has to do with the evolution of human consciousness and how quickly we can grow. And that was a direct message. That was from one of your teachers.
Lane: Which one?
Joyce: I'll tell you in a second, it felt very much like Archangel Michael. He's so protective of you and of so many people. And the angelic forces do not obviously want it to happen, but the shutting down of everything, of the days of darkness and people going crazy and not knowing, you know, what's next kind of thing--if they would grow and realize that so many of the things that we've taken for granted should no longer be taken for granted. I mean, at that point, stop and realize vaccination is stupid.
That's the first thing. It's that kind of thinking. Right now, we're going backwards. We're going to the vaccination thing with people still getting booster shots. And that bothers me.
Lane: They think they're protecting themselves. How much more information do you need? It doesn't protect you. You can still spread the virus, the bad cold that it is. Much worse you experienced terrible side effects. Women losing their hair.
You may not listen to the fact that you'll have no reproductive abilities or your heart is going to give out or you get hives or neurological damage. But how about this ladies? You are going to lose your hair.
Joyce: I love my hair. All right.
Lane: Right. We're vain.
Joyce: Pardon me for diverting, but space people find this fascinating because they have no hair. And they look at us and they say, that's amazing. What is that stuff all over you?
Lane: What do they think? Do they like the hair? Do they think it's ugly?
Joyce: No, they don't think it's ugly. They think it's fascinating. And we do things with our hair. We turn it different colors and we cut it and then it grows again. They said, this is amazing.
Lane: I just don't think we're in danger of the three days of darkness.
Joyce: Only because of people waking up and saying, this is ridiculous. Why would there be a problem with the food supply, there never was before?
Do you know? I ordered something. Okay. It probably was from China. I admit I made a mistake. I ordered it like three weeks before Christmas for one of my friends. Normally it would come the next day she received it yesterday. So I know that a lot of people are resisting, they're changing their philosophy, they're realizing that a lot of things that we did were wrong.
You probably need self sustenance. You need to learn how to purify water. Did you know, we had a jacuzzi that was outside. It was always filthy because it rained and it was muddy and everything. If you put in a teaspoon full of bleach, it was clear in a matter of moments.
So it's very important for people to say, I need to have clean, fresh water. Bleach is one of the most important, just the fact that you have in your house. And speaking of disinfections and viruses and such--
Lane: I'd rather use something safe, like hydrogen peroxide food-grade or MMS.
Joyce: I don't think you should take bleach like Trump's supposedly did. That's not a good idea.
Lane: Did you not see my show, FDA Not Approved, the first episode?
Joyce: I think I missed it.
Lane: It completely refuted that bleach argument. He didn't take bleach. He was talking about MMS, which is not bleach and is a life saving miracle product. It cures malaria, AIDS, parasites COVID, cancer. You name it.
Joyce: That's fabulous.
Lane: The FDA Not Approved show will be continuing on LifeSource. And we will move the the first episode over, as we trans --I'm sorry. What do you call it when you go from one to another?
Joyce: I don't know. Transition?
Lane: I have so many transes on my mind, transmutation, transcendence, transgender--transfer. So yes.
Joyce: Now you put me in a place of sumadhi. Go ahead.
Lane: All right. So we've been in transition moving into LifeSource, which is a new endeavor of the people for the people by the people. We will be broadcasting from there, from now on. FDA Not Approved had to take a little hiatus, a very short one.
We had the holidays, I got COVID or whatever the heck that was. What's it called?
Joyce: But you did it brilliantly. You did it deliberately.
Lane: I think I brought it upon myself. I deliberately wanted to experience it.
Joyce: Like Madame Curie of the COVID world.
Lane: Yes, that's true. I have all these remedies in my closet and I don't get to use any of them because I never get sick.
Joyce: I know, thank God. But you decided to experiment on yourself, which was great. And I did the same thing.
Lane: How did you fare? What did you take?
Joyce: I used OSCILLOCOCCINUM.
Lane: You explained that on the last show. Yes. That's very effective. Had I thought of that I would have done it. But by the time you suggested it, I was three or four days into it. And it's like, I can't find anything.
Joyce: I love when people enter that stage of extreme indifference where everything is, we don't care.
The fact is that this is a wonderful show because it's fun, and its informative and it's cosmic. I'm very happy to be a part of it. Thank you.
Lane: This is our audience and we will build a new one over here on LifeSource. There won't be a paywall this time. There was a paywall on the other one, which people were not happy about and I don't blame them, but it wasn't my call. So we won't have the infrastructure costs. We did get an offer of a satellite where we can have a 24, 7 global uncensored radio outlet.
We're looking into that and a lot of good stuff is coming, hopefully a little money to get us going. I'm just saying that to the protectors out there. But it's going to be great.
Joyce: Absolutely. And I'm very happy to be a part of it. Thank you.
There are so many words that I've never heard before. That is so important during this time of transition. And I think my favorite word that I just learned today is the word PSYCHOTRONIC. It's the law of psychotronics. You know what that is? This was directly from Tesla by the way. This is the way he described it to me: the word psychotronic energy. You can manifest this, for example, is sleeping with your head to the north because it will pull in cosmic energy.
This is an example of how it manifests. It is the use of magnetic energy of the earth so that it will help us to manifest our highest consciousness.
The idea is to sleep with your head to the north and it will increase your ability as a healer and whatever you wish to be in your life to have greater awareness. You should have a little water by your bed also.
It brings in a lot of the power of the pyramids, he's showing me pyramids. The interesting thing, now this really shocked me, he said the magnetic med-peds that we have now are for the most part, fraudulent.
Lane: A couple of them have shown up and one is completely sent through the airwaves. You lie in your own bed and they send it to you. I believe and other people believe it's going to destroy your DNA, that this is not the way to go.
Joyce: Yes, that was the second part of the message. And he was so sad because the med bed technology is of the future and it's correct when done correctly with the use of polarization and using magnetic frequency and crystals. It's a combination of advanced technology, which we're not quite at that point.
So he said in the meantime, med beds were created to introduce the technology to the public, but they're not quite right. They're not helpful yet. You know, you can have the feeling of something is helping you and it's psychosomatic. Thank you. Okay. It's a psychosomatic thing where you think something's helping you and you'll be completely well.
That's great. And we applaud them for that. However, for the most part it's not legitimate. Okay, so that must be Tesla's contribution,
Lane: So the DNA is going to get damaged from these fraudulent med beds?
Joyce: If they read about it and they accepted into their consciousness, it could be damaging to the DNA.
But like with vaccines, say, if you are, God forbid forced to have an injection, you can say to your highest consciousness, let this have no negative effect on me. I block it and your higher consciousness will block it. And you will not have effect from it because they will honor your request.
Lane: That's wonderful. Now I'm reading about psychotronics and apparently the CIA attributed the discovery to a Czech scientist name is Robert Pavlita. And you can create these devices called Pavlita generators, which can draw, store and transmit the life force energy of an individual.
Does Tesla recommend the use of these?
Joyce: Not yet. No. it's too soon because the technology hasn't caught up with the manifestation of the energy. There is still a disconnect. So it needs a little more time. But that scientist was on the right track.
Lane: Oh, okay. Thank you very much. What about the orgonite generators where you create them yourself with inorganic and organic material with a epoxy.
Organite, discovered by Wilhelm Reicht in the fifties or forties. Basically you take organic mixed with inorganic using materials like copper. Shungite is another material that you can use, shungite powder and you set it in epoxy, which is inert. People make all sorts of shapes and they put little coils and stuff in there, but you could create very simple ones.
You have them all over your house because I gave them to you. So are these things for real, do they do anything? This organite energy?
Joyce: He said radionics.
Lane: Radionics. So we're talking Royal Rife,
Joyce: The Rife or radionics energy is correct. Whereas organite energy, copper and shungite is off the mark.
The energy needs to be stabilized.
Lane: I understand that the frequencies of the Rife machine have been distorted deliberately to confuse humanity and not to give us something that would truly heal us and that the only Rife machines that are any good were the ones made in the very beginning. Of course, those are impossible to get.
Joyce: He said that when it was originally created, what, in the thirties? He's saying in the 30s. At that time, before it was corrupted, it was correct. But since then it has been altered and it's no longer of the right frequency.
Lane: Is there any way to duplicate those frequencies of the thirties?
Joyce: Yes. You have to find out what the original frequency was and it has to be duplicated. Right now they're going with the information that's given out freely and it's not correct.
Lane: Is this something we can get from Tesla himself? Can he give us those frequencies?
Joyce: He said you have to understand what the frequency is. You have to research it on your own. You have to find out what it is, but it's not what you're being currently told that it is. Okay. This is what he's saying. He's not giving me numbers.
He's saying it would be better than nothing, but it's not totally correct. He said the original Rife machine was correct. He showing me a machine. It's a box with knobs on it and controls and wires.
Lane: We get one, do they still exist? and maybe duplicate it.
Joyce: He said, if you find out the correct configuration of the unit you can create it yourself. This is what he's saying. In the future there will be no illness. Virtually no one on the planet at this time, or anytime in the past has ever had a physical body without some kind of a problem. Every single person has had a problem. I don't know if they're talking about Jesus and the ascended masters, but he said the regular folks, that's going to be over.
There's going to be no need for a Rife machine or any of that because the frequency--let me get this right-- the vibration and the frequency of the earth will have been changed to such a degree by 2031, illness will be a thing of the past.
Lane: Thank you. That's wonderful news. Can we reverse age? Obviously people are doing it to some degree now, but not fully.
Joyce: He's laughing. He thinks you're very funny. He thinks I'm funny too. He says the best way to reverse age is to be a walk in.
Lane: That's not fair.
Joyce: I know, but he's saying that if you come in, if your body's God forbid ill and you've tried everything, you cannot cure it--you should be able to remember what what it was. Edison says, physician heal thyself. And the Bible says that also.
Lane: Okay. We're talking two different things. I'm talking an aging body--is there any way to, to push that back to when it wasn't aging, because such a song and dance was sold to everyone.
And the med beds allegedly brought you back to age 25 or whatever age you wanted to be.
Joyce: The mind is a powerful thing. If the person using the med bed believes hat they could knock a few years off, it will be, he said. But really it's not the essential purpose.
They don't have the understanding of the technology at this time. Which of course is very Atlantean.
Lane: Okay. Perfect. So if you're so sick and you can't seem to cure the body, what do you do then? And you still want to stay, you asked to be a walk-in elsewhere? Is that what he's saying?
Joyce: Yes, you can. You can give up your body and you can say to higher consciousness that, if there is someone who would like to deal with this current body and its issues, and you'd like to try different forms of healing or cosmic healing or whatever you have in mind, you're welcome to it. I really wish to step out at this time.
At that time, either your silver cord that connects you to your body is severed as another body comes in. It's very complicated and it's not too common, but there are such a thing as walk-ins. Of course you have the near-death experience, people.
Most of those people are in most cases walk-ins. They're not the original person. such as Anita Moorjani who really did physically die of a terminal cancer, but now she's perfectly well and she's lecturing.
Lane: All right. But what about you you've had multiple near death experiences.
Are you a walk-in?
Joyce: I would prefer not to answer that, but since you're asking me, I have to answer the question. Yes.
Joyce: 1998, when from a dentist, I had a heart infection. I was unconscious for a few days. And at that time, the old Joicie left and a new one came in. It doesn't mean that the original Joyce was not around. They could be still at part of your consciousness, but there is a whole change over personality and appearance.
Lane: Okay. And who is this now?
Joyce: You take on the whole essence of the person, that name, everything is the same, but I look different. Okay. Your brother recognized that I looked different, right?
Lane: Well, I've always thought you were walk in. I have to be honest. I kept it to myself, but I suspected.
Joyce: And that can happen more than once. It can happen many, many times. Like with Cayce where you just don't have the capacity to teach what your ascendent teachers want you to teach. He said, No, no, I can't do that, it's not in keeping with the Bible. So they said, okay, bye-bye Edgar.
Lane: But why did Joyce in 1998 leave?
Joyce: Well, obviously I couldn't handle whatever was coming up after that. I deal so much with death. I didn't do that before.
Lane: You do. Way too much.
Joyce: I deal way too much with death, with people who don't know how to deal with death, people who are experiencing the loss of their loved ones or they themselves are dying.
This is very tough. It's a very tough call. And I don't know if I could have handled it quite as well before 1998. Now you were with me in 1998. Do you agree that's correct?
Lane: Well, I don't know for sure that the that's when I pinpointed anything, there have been certain signs. I can't really remember what they are, but it's come to my consciousness multiple times.
Joyce: That I'm different.
Lane: No. Uhm mm. Are you a walk-in? Why do I get that distinct information? I don't have any evidence or clues really. Yeah, you look different, but there are surgical reasons for that. So in and of itself, that's not really indicative.
Joyce: You had to mention surgical?
Lane: See, that's the same sense of humor, the other Joyce had.
Joyce: Well you pretty much keep the personality, but your capacity changes.
Lane: I understand. This is so important because we have so many walk-ins right now. You said it.
Joyce: It could be.
Lane: Oh, my goodness is, did we have another changeover of the guard these past months?
Joyce: See when you said so many? I don't know what so many means.
Lane: Okay. You said, right here on this very show, formerly known as the Arcturians and Friends. You said that we have more walk-ins now than at any other time on the planet. Right now there is a big earth party. They all--I can't remember exactly what you said--but everyone wants to be here right now for the big show.
Joyce: Yes, that's true.
Lane: That's why I said we have more walk-ins now than ever.
Joyce: Right. I had forgotten about that, but now that you remind me it really is true.
Lane: What am I dealing with? Please. It's hard enough have a double Gemini mother. Now I need an extra set?
It's very fun. Having four mums at once.
Joyce: I think it was never, there was never such a cause on the earth for this kind of altering of energy. There's never been anything quite like this. However, billions old the earth actually is. What we've come to now is really quite extraordinary. And that's what you just said.
Why so many people are coming in. Other people are just afraid they can't handle it. And they're choosing to leave. Other brave souls is saying, sure, I'm in and they're coming right in. They say, I'll take that body. And there are long lines. Apparently having a physical body is a great privilege, especially during a time like this, where we're going to see so many changes and where you have to really pay attention to what's safe and what isn't safe.
Don't assume if you climb up the big snowy mountain that you're not going to have an avalanche. Because you might . Okay? Be aware. This is why you and I said before awareness really counts and the probabilities, be aware of the probability.
Lane: You're talking to an audience who is aware.
So anything else we can do ?
Joyce: Yes, I wanted people to go to the web and get the exact configuration of a pyramid. And that's a great, can be very small. Now you built a beautiful pyramid? It fits in your hand.
Lane: Oh, that one. Yes, I did.
Joyce: Now the idea of pyramids is that it configures energy.
I believe Tesla who was sharing this with you, that it so concentrates and brings an energy that you need for these changing times. So you'll have a greater awareness. It's stepping up your meditation, stepping up your awareness. I'm sure you remember Lane, your dad and I had a king size bed and your dad and I built the pyramid. There was a king size bed.
Lane: Excuse me, are we talking about the pyramid of Giza, are the proportions all the same? All the pyramids?
Joyce: I believe that was basic configuration and I don't, I don't have the information.
I'm not transmitting anything about inches or feet or anything like that because I don't want it to be wrong, but I would go with Giza.
Lane: I have those measurements up right here. I don't know if it's accurate because it's on the web. It's probably distorted. So if anyone knows how to get the accurate dimensions, please send them and we'll share them.
Joyce: It can be small not the size of the pyramid. Apparently it doesn't matter.
Lane: Well, I don't think we're going to build on this size of the great pyramid in our backyards.
Joyce: Although dad tried.
Lane: He was the original tin foil hat wearer. I mean, when they made the meme for the tinfoil hat, they had his picture. Seriously.
Joyce: Is there anything negative about that?
Lane: No, it's hilarious. He used to sit in the living room with a cardboard pyramid to the exact configuration as Nikola was saying. And he hung it over his chair in the living room.
Joyce: He was doing that because he was taking an advanced professional engineering test and it concentrated the knowledge.
It was such a difficult test. It was a three-day engineering test and it was an open book test. You're allowed to take books in with you.
And he said, no, I don't have to do that. He said, I have my pyramids. So he studied under a pyramid for a year. That's why he had the pyramid. He passed the test. Now there was so many kids that he was competing with. They were pulling wagons full of books. And there he was with his hands in his pocket pulling nothing--
Lane: Had one advanced chemistry book with him.
Joyce: Which I'm sure you read.
Lane: It was actually Scott's.
Joyce: Okay. But the point is pyramid power really is excellent and it will be helpful and people want healing.
Now I know that hospitals are not pyramid shaped. I understand that, but if a person that's ill--I don't know how you can do it unless he's at home or she's at home. I would build a little pyramid, all the better over his head or something like that. That would help to speed up the healing.
Lane: Well, that's a great idea.
Joyce: You can do this with wire. Just make a pyramid out of a hanger. Get the correct configuration. And then hang it on the string.
Lane: yes. Thank you. Except no one has any of your hangers anymore, except Joan Crawford.
Joyce: I don't even think I have any. If I have one I'll mail it to you.
Lane: No thanks. I'm sure I can find some wires somewhere. Okay. How exact does it need to be?
Because you have to go back before the information got perverted. There's nothing that's accurate. I mean, there are some things, but you have to really know where to look.
Joyce: How do you actually get to the truth then? I'm very curious.
Lane: it's a combination of head, heart and spirit-- higher level discernment, intuition, if you will. You can't go by pure analysis any more. Just the way COVID moved us into this situation where it's a do or die moment, either humanity is going to live, or it's going to die.
If people don't wake up and throw off the shackles, the same thing is true. With information delivery, you have no choice but to learn how to discern, which means you've got to move out of your head and find balance with your higher sense of things, because it's very hard. I have a lot of experience, so I know who's telling the truth basically, and who has been corrupted basically. I don't know everything, but I know a lot. People just coming into it, don't have those years of experience. Everyone listening to this call should know beyond a shadow of a doubt that anything on mainstream search engines is bull.
Information that you dig for is not necessarily accurate. Even those sources who've been at this for a lifetime are often corrupted.
Joyce: It's a test of our discernment. Okay. Since you were speaking about aging before, a lack of aging.
I have to ask you a question and this involves knowing the definition of the word methylation. M E T H Y L A T I O N.
Lane: The transfer of four atoms, one carbon and three hydrogen from one substance to another.
Joyce: Are you reading that from the computer? That's not fair.
Lane: No, I'm making it up.
Of course I'm reading it from the computer.
Here's the crux. When methylation occurs, it has a significant positive impact on many biochemical reactions in the body that regulate the activity of the cardiovascular, neurological, reproductive and detox systems.
So what do we do? S A M e. Okay.
Joyce: In an answer to your question before, it's stops aging. It's called DNA methylation, also genetically known as the epigenetics field of cell activity. And I swear to you, my eyes are closed. So I'm just repeating to you what I'm hearing. It is an answer to your question about the DNA.
Lane: Whose information? Thank you so much.
Joyce: There's no egos, no, no name. A lot of times people want names. They'll say, please tell me the names of my guides.
It's a very fair, good question. However, a lot of the ascended masters don't even have names. A lot of angels have no names, They don't use names. There's no egos. Like they say, it's like they're cosmic energy. They want a name? We'll make one up here. I'm Sam. Okay?
Lane: I get it. Thank you. Can you please tell me, is this something that is readily available? Do we have to go around the FDA to do it or, or what?
Joyce: It's something that has to be researched. We're not ready for methylation. There's no realization of age. This is an answer to your question. It shows you how things take time. It's working with your DNA and epigenetics and they're studying epigenetics, but it's very slow because, do you know, that Mu, or Lemuria, was older than Atlantis?
Lane: Yes. I think I did know that.
Joyce: Coming from Mu, which I believe is the same as Lemuria, they had a grip on epigenetics that was so outstanding and all that information will have to be given to us again.
Lane: The guests will appreciate that. Also. I hope if anyone finds a concrete direction on this we'll share it with everyone on the show.
Joyce: I'll be happy to have it. I'll use it, whatever it is. Is it a cream? I'll put it off. I'll put it on.
Lane: All right, we'll try it. We're Guinea pigs. All right, anything else we need to know or share before we--
Joyce: Yes, we have to know how to make methylation cream and put it in the pyramid. I still have your pyramid by the way, because I have everything you ever made since you were a little kid. It's very small. It's so cute. It's just like you. I have things that you made before you went to kindergarten that are still here.
Don't make me put them on the web please.
Lane: Please don't. I'm dying to know what they are, though.
Lane: Oh my. Okay.
Joyce: You took this very seriously. You said, please don't talk to me now. I'm cutting out my Valentines. You were about three or four years old, very studious. And I'll have some lace ...
Lane: It's a very important job. Well, thank you. So we should wrap this up.
Joycie, thank you so much, whichever Joyce this is.
Joyce: Thank you, Lanie. Thank you all. Thank you all very much.
Lane: All right. Love you all and we will see you back here shortly, and we'll try to put all our information down in the bottom.